인드라 주장처럼 1830년대 반메이슨 운동의 주역인 Thurlow Weed가 로스차일드 끄나풀이었다는 증거는 어디에도 없다; 단 반메이슨 정당이 1830년대부터 휘그당(훗날의 공화당)의 뿌리가 되어 링컨 정부를 지지한 것은 맞고, 로스차일드 역시 링컨 정부를 지지한 것에서 공통점이 있다; 그러나 로스차일드가 밀어주었던 재무장관 솔로몬 체이스는 위드와의 반목 때문에 사임을 해야했다
Thurlow Weed was a prominent 19th-century American political figure, newspaper publisher, and influential advisor, especially known for his leadership within the Whig Party and later the Republican Party. The Rothschild family, on the other hand, is a European banking dynasty known for vast financial influence primarily centered in Europe.
Is there a documented relationship between Thurlow Weed and the Rothschild family?
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No clear or direct historical evidence shows that Thurlow Weed had a personal or financial relationship with the Rothschild family.
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Weed operated mainly within the American political and media spheres, focusing on U.S. domestic politics.
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The Rothschilds, while influential in global finance, primarily operated in Europe and had limited direct involvement in U.S. political party activities or media during Weed’s lifetime.
Possible reasons why a connection might be speculated:
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Both were influential in their respective spheres during the 19th century.
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Conspiracy theories sometimes attempt to link major political figures to international banking families like the Rothschilds to suggest hidden influence or control.
Historical consensus:
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Serious historians do not support any significant or documented relationship between Thurlow Weed and the Rothschild family.
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Any claim of a connection likely arises from speculative or conspiratorial narratives rather than solid evidence.
If you're interested, I can help look deeper into their backgrounds or provide context on either figure’s influence during that period!
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Great question! August Belmont and Thurlow Weed were both influential figures in 19th-century American politics, and they had a notable political relationship, especially tied to the Democratic Party and its financial backing.
Who were they?
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Thurlow Weed (1797–1882): A powerful newspaper publisher and political boss, mainly associated with the Whig Party and later the Republican Party. He was known as a kingmaker and political strategist.
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August Belmont (1813–1890): A wealthy German-born American banker, financier, and Democratic Party leader. He became a key figure in the Democratic Party’s national finance and political operations.
Their Relationship:
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Political and Social Circles: Both men operated within the upper echelons of American political life, often crossing paths in the context of party politics, though they were aligned with rival parties for much of their careers (Weed with Whigs/Republicans, Belmont with Democrats).
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Mutual Recognition and Influence:
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Belmont was the American representative of the Rothschild banking family, giving him substantial financial clout in politics.
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Weed, as a political boss and editor, was deeply involved in shaping political campaigns and candidates.
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Indirect Interaction:
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While they were not close allies (due to party differences), their spheres of influence inevitably overlapped, especially during times when political coalitions and party strategies shifted.
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They were both key players in New York politics and national elections, influencing the Democratic and Whig/Republican parties respectively.
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Summary
| Aspect | Thurlow Weed | August Belmont |
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| Role | Political boss, Whig/Republican | Banker, financier, Democrat |
| Party Affiliation | Whig, later Republican | Democratic Party |
| Relationship Nature | Rival political operatives with mutual recognition and occasional interaction due to overlapping spheres |
Additional Notes
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Belmont’s wealth and Rothschild connections gave the Democratic Party financial strength, while Weed’s political acumen helped organize opposition.
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Their “relationship” is better described as contemporaries and rivals in political and financial arenas, rather than personal allies.
If you'd like, I can provide more details on their political activities or specific events where their paths crossed!
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Great question! The relationship between Thurlow Weed and Salmon P. Chase—who was Lincoln’s Treasury Secretary—is an interesting example of political rivalry and tension within the early Republican Party.
Background on the two:
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Thurlow Weed: Influential political boss, newspaper publisher, and power broker for the Whig Party and later the Republican Party. He had great influence over candidate selections and party strategies.
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Salmon P. Chase: Abolitionist leader, senator, and Secretary of the Treasury under Lincoln during the Civil War. He was a rising star in the Republican Party with strong anti-slavery credentials.
Their Relationship:
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Political Rivalry:
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Weed was a pragmatic party boss with ties to moderate and conservative Republicans.
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Chase represented the more radical anti-slavery wing of the party.
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Weed was initially wary of Chase’s ambitions and political style, which was more reformist and moralistic.
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Conflicts:
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Weed opposed Chase’s aspirations for the presidency in 1860, as Weed preferred other candidates more aligned with his political network.
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Chase, on the other hand, distrusted political bosses like Weed and sought to distance himself from their control.
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Cooperation when necessary:
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Despite their differences, they cooperated politically when it served the Union cause during the Civil War.
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Weed helped Lincoln’s campaign and the Republican establishment, while Chase managed the Treasury and war finances.
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Summary
| Aspect | Thurlow Weed | Salmon P. Chase |
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| Role | Political boss, kingmaker | Treasury Secretary, reformer |
| Party Faction | Moderate/conservative Republicans | Radical Republicans |
| Relationship Nature | Rivalry with tension, limited cooperation during war |
In brief
Their relationship was marked by political rivalry and ideological differences, with Weed representing the established party machinery and Chase pushing reformist, abolitionist ideals. But the gravity of the Civil War forced practical cooperation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurlow_Weed
Federal patronage in New York caused Lincoln difficulty as Weed and his opponents vied for control of government appointments.[99] In 1864, Lincoln appeased Weed by blocking Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase's choice for a new assistant secretary in charge of the New York sub-treasury, which led to Chase's resignation.[99] Lincoln then ensured he would have Weed's support in the 1864 election by dismissing Hiram Barney, a Radical Republican, as Collector of the Port of New York, and replacing him with Simeon Draper, a Weed ally.[99]
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By 1834, the Adams-Clay organization that had been the National Republicans was forming into the Whig Party.[70] Most Anti-Masons joined the Whigs, regarding the new party as the best alternative to Jackson and Van Buren, and enabling Weed to assume a leadership role in a larger and more orthodox political organization.[70] His Evening Journal became the main Whig newspaper, and by the 1840s it had the largest circulation of any political newspaper in the United States.[70][71]
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Weed and other Whigs worked to blame Van Buren and the Democratic Party for the Panic of 1837.[72] In 1838, he was one of William H. Seward's main supporters in Seward's successful campaign for governor, and was largely credited with Seward's victory.[73] Weed was also a main supporter of William Henry Harrison's successful presidential bid in 1840, in which Harrison defeated Van Buren to become the first Whig president.[72][73]
In the 1830s and 1840s, Weed became active in the abolitionist movement.[74] When former slave Stephen Myers of Albany began creation of a transportation network and system of safe houses for escaping slaves, Weed was among the prominent individuals to whom he turned for financing.[74] In addition, Weed and his wife made their own home available to fleeing slaves as part of the Underground Railroad.[75]
Political organizer
[edit]Weed was generally seen as the "boss" of New York's Whig Party, using the same tactics as the Regency—patronage and political favors—to attract supporters and keep order in the ranks, efforts he was able to reinforce through the Evening Journal.[76] Under Weed's leadership, the Whigs became the dominant force in state politics for several years, and Weed was arguably the most powerful politician in New York.[62]
As a practical politician, Weed was a pragmatist, rather than an idealist, always taking care to avoid controversial issues and positions that would decrease Whig support on election day.[77] One exception was the issue of slavery,[62] a subject on which Weed made public statements in opposition while trying to avoid the most radical language of those seen as uncompromising abolitionists.[78]
Harrison died in April 1841, only a month after taking office, and was succeeded by John Tyler, a former Democrat, who disappointed Weed by abandoning Whig policies.[79] Weed backed Clay in 1844, but his frustration continued when Clay was narrowly defeated.[73] Following the Mexican–American War, Zachary Taylor emerged as a likely Whig candidate for president, and Weed supported his successful effort.[73] But Taylor, like Harrison, died in office.[73]
Weed played a leading role in the passage of New York's Consolidation Act, which created the New York Central Railroad, at the time the largest corporation in the United States.[80] Weed's role was noteworthy in that he worked for approval of the Consolidation Act largely as a favor to his friend Erastus Corning, one of the financial backers of the project, though Corning was a Democrat and opposed to Weed politically.[80]
There is no solid historical evidence that the New York Central Railroad (NYCRR), founded in 1853, was directly funded by British capital or the Rothschild family at its inception. Here's what is known:
🛤️ Background on the New York Central Railroad
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Founded: 1853, by consolidating several smaller railroads in upstate New York.
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Key founder: Erastus Corning, an American businessman and politician who played a central role in merging the lines that formed the NYCRR.
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Later magnates: Cornelius Vanderbilt gained control of the railroad in the late 1860s and expanded it into a major national system.
💰 Was British or Rothschild Capital Involved?
✅ What we do know:
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British investors were heavily involved in financing railroads in general during the 19th century, especially in the U.S. and Latin America.
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The Rothschilds, particularly Nathan Mayer Rothschild & Sons, funded major infrastructure projects across Europe and Latin America.
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However, direct Rothschild investment in early U.S. railroads was limited, especially before the Civil War.
❌ What we don’t see evidence for:
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No credible primary-source documents or academic research confirm Rothschild investment in the original formation of the New York Central Railroad.
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Erastus Corning and early shareholders were predominantly American industrialists and politicians, not European financiers.
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The Rothschilds tended to avoid speculative investment in early U.S. ventures during this time, partly due to concerns over regulatory instability and long-term profitability.
🧾 Later Influence?
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After the Civil War, as U.S. railroad stocks became more established, foreign investment (including from Britain) increased.
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By the time of Vanderbilt's control (post-1867), some British capital may have been indirectly involved via bond markets, but not necessarily Rothschild capital.
🧠 Summary
| Question | Answer |
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| Was the NY Central Railroad founded with Rothschild capital? | No known evidence supports this. |
| Was British capital involved at the start (1853)? | Unlikely in any major way. Early investors were American. |
| Did Rothschilds fund U.S. railroads generally? | Rarely before the Civil War; more after 1870s. |
If you’re curious, I can trace Rothschild involvement in other railroads like those in Europe, South America, or their general U.S. financial policy in the 1800s.
https://blog.naver.com/strategicvision/221844181910?trackingCode=blog_bloghome_searchlist
5 달러: 에이브러햄 링컨
링컨의 뒷배는 로스차일드 가문. 링컨 정부의 재무부 장관을 지냈던 살로몬 체이스는 노예제 폐지에 앞장섰으며 그린백 발행을 주도한 인물인데, 로스차일드 가문은 자신들의 미국인 대리인 어거스트 벨몬트를 통해 체이스가 미국 연방을 유지하도록 지원했으며, 심지어 체이스가 다음 대통령으로 되도록 밀어주기도 했다(그러나 실패했다). 참고로, 체이스의 이름을 따서 오늘날 미국 연방준비은행을 지배하는 체이스맨해튼(JP모건체이스) 은행이 만들어졌다. 링컨의 재정고문을 맡았던 샐리그먼 유태인 은행가는 그린백 채권을 영국, 유럽에 적극 판매해서 유통시켰을 뿐만 아니라 북군 제복을 만들면서 적극 링컨을 지지하기도 했다. 로스차일드 미국 대리인이라 소문이 나서 남북전쟁 때 피바디처럼 운신이 어려웠던 모건조차 그린백 채권을 보유하기도 했다.
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